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Online Chat. But of course, that's just my opinion. History clearly shows that there are groups that profess Chrlstianity that do not trace their history through the usual channels that this article limits itself too. This seems to be POV and desirous of those who wish to appeal to the traditional Christianity, which is too narrow for the title of this article.

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I find most Protestants, particularly those who have read anti-Mormon literature, to be without understanding of Mormon doctrine or beliefs. Glad that you're content, Storm Rider. If you want to, you can include it into the current paragraph. Phone Call. On an article on, e. Firstly, you brought up the point of "The Nicean creed came only years later", to which I respond: Joseph Smith only came years later.

If the isue I referred to was "taken out of context" and I invite you to put it into context, if you want to, by mailing me on my user. At no time did God or Christ ever say to be Christian one must believe these specific things" are valid expressions of granny chat little rock on tyne view, to which I can respond with my view.

So we each have a choice and option to put our faith in Jesus and be saved.

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By the way, maybe my brain is a bit muzzy now from all the revision, but I have no idea what MSC referred to at the beginning of this thread christianitt. If we chrisrianity going to keep it less comprehensive, then we will keep it less comprehensive for everyone. BTW, while I chose not to identify myself as such on my userI am a priest in an independent Syriac Sex chat space jurisdiction. I don't quite understand you preference for mainstream Christiantiy.

As the article clearly states: "A more comprehensive overview would show more complicated relationships among denominations and traditions", if the objective is to have less comprehensive article, there is no need to single out specific groups. Now, I do have a particular perspective as a United Methodist pastor, but I'm not attempting to make that "law" or anything.

However, the Good News is that God loves us so much that he has a plan to restore his creation and our relationship with him. Ok, I have posted another wording. Hope this all christoanity Their creeds are the doctrines of men and have nothing to do with God or His teachings. It is not claiming to be indisputable.

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Tell me, how would you feel to bear cam2cam chat personal witness of the divinity of Christ and then have a "Christian" state you are still not Christian? The question on the table is labeling groups non-Christian because they do not believe in those doctrines commonly labled as "gospel ssentials".

When we do that we are forgiven of our sins and God sees us just as he sees his perfect son. These are groups that are not trinitarian such as the Jehovah's Witness', Mormons, and the 7th Day Church of God groups. Wesley I tend to agree with you, although I can live with "mainstream. We want to help you understand and make that commitment to Jesus. I have every right to make up my mind about Christianity and what it means and I have.

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I don't think it's good that the contents should start with the fringe instead of the mainstream. Str15 Cbat UTC. KHM03 : Thanks for clarifying that. Storm Rider, why don't you understand me. I seek truth wherever it exists and I find incredible and beautiful truths within the historic Christian churches. This "fact" should be referenced. He sent his son, Jesus, to pay the penalty for our sins.

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We still live in that broken world and the penalty for our sin is death and separation from God. The trinitiarian issue is mentioned because it is the most common. I know that that's a Catholic view but I don't think christiannity are allowed to limit my right to hold that opinion.

And I advise you not to refer to "creeds of men created hundreds of years of the time of Christ" - AD is later than 30 AD but it's still closer than the s. What we currently have in the article I think is accurate, namely: that these groups are considered Further, the article refers to restorationist beliefsbut then leaves out both The Church of Jesus Hook up messages of Latter-day Saints and the Jehovah Witnesses.

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Storm Rider, "Write the article the way you wish" - I did and reinserted the sentence. This well belongs to the introduction. At no time did God or Christ ever say to be Christian colombia gay chat must believe these specific things. I don't keep you from sticking to you position, even though I think it wrong and illusionary.

Text Message. Accepting Christ as their personal Savior is the defnition of being saved, not whether you are obedient to teachings.

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Str17 October UTC. The only thing that's different is a closer look on "trinity issues".

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You have referred various beliefs of within The Chruch of Cat Christ of Latter-day Saints ; it is the typical "shock and awe" statements that christianitg used uncensored chat roulette most common anti-Mormon literature. By persecutions, I mean the raping, tar and feathering leaders and adherents, murdering of leaders, men, women, and children, expelling and burning of homes, constant and incessant attack until the early LDS people were forced to leave the United States for a land no one desired in the hopes of practicing their religion in peace.

This is about how these groups are viewed by others, here by mainstream Christianity.